DISHONEST DYNASTY ART AUCTIONEERS & PRIME AUCTIONEERS IN CANADA - LIVEAUCTIONEERS

We have all come across them, DODGY auctioneers who are always on the look out for a new people to steal from, I have been buying on the net for years and sooner or later you will come across one of these scum bags.

Here is one Company in Canada I would like to highlight to the Internet world.

DYNASTY ART AUCTIONEERS LOCATED IN CANADA HAVING AUCTIONS VIA LIVE AUCTIONEERS EVERY TWO MONTHS OR SO.

This Company have regular auctions, the client bid via the internet and win the item then pays for the item plus postal and the auction never send it, WHAT A GREAT WAY TO MAKE MONEY, WHAT A THIEF.

AND YOU CANT DO A THING ABOUT IT.

I had this problem with  DYNASTY ART AUCTIONEERS BASED IN CANADA, I contacted live auctioneers to complain about there conduct, who tell me, we can not police auctioneers who hold auctions via our platform, you will need to speak to the auction house directly.

Which I had done several times, they had one hundred excuses why they are not liable, read there conditions of sale, THIEVES.

I AM WRITING THIS STORY SO OTHER UNSUSPECTING BUYERS ARE AWARE OF THIS AUCTION COMPANY DYNASTY ART AUCTIONEERS BASED IN CANADA SO YOU DON'T BECOME THERE NEXT VICTIM VIA LIVE AUCTIONEERS.

PRIME AUCTIONEERS ARE ANOTHER AUCTION IN CANADA WHO DO NOT SEND THERE CLIENTS ITEMS WHEN BOUGHT AT THERE AUCTION VIA LIVE AUCTIONEERS.

IT TOOK ME 4 MONTHS TO HAVE THEM RETURN MY MONEY VIA PAYPAL, WHO THANK GOD MADE THIS AUCTION PRIME AUCTIONEERS BASED IN CANADA RETURN MY FUNDS OR PAYPAL WAS GOING TO CLAMP HIS ACCOUNT, ANOTHER DIRTY DISHONEST GERM AUCTIONEER.

This yellow vase was never sent by PRIME AUCTIONEERS, paid $500 + $150 postage lucky to get my money back thank god for PayPal
This blue & white vase was sold for $425 + Commission + postage $160 close to $650
by DYNASTY ART AUCTIONEERS CANADA but never received by the client.





BOTH AUCTIONEERS ARE DISHONEST BEWARE DON'T BUY FROM THESE AUCTIONEERS IN CANADA.

DYNASTY ART AUCTIONEERS IF YOU CHECK DO NOT HAVE A BUSINESS ADDRESS THAT THEY WORK FROM, THERE LAST ADDRESS BEFORE TODAY WAS A SHOPPING CENTRE CAR PARK, NOW THERE ADVERTISED ADDRESS ON LIVE AUCTIONEERS IF YOU GOOGLE IT TAKES YOU TO A RESTAURANT IN EXETER CANADA.

There is one way to get around dishonest auctioneers conditions of sale, when you read the item must be paid for before collection which is common and standard at any auction but if you use an outside shipper to collect your item send that shipper the money owed for the item you bought at auction and the outside shipper can collect your item and pay for it at the same time as collection.

Or you could make a time that your shipper will collect from the auction address and you can ring that auction giving your card details over the telephone while your shipper waits, then your shipper can collect on the spot, or your shipper can ring you from the auction on his cell phone when he gets there and you can pay over the phone, it may cost you a phone call, small price to pay, so your not ripped off by the auction Company.

Please readers I must say not all Auctioneers who have an in-house shipping service are dishonest, 95% of Auctioneers are honest and good people to deal with, its just that small percentage of dishonest auctioneers who make my blood boil, and how do you know the auctioneers your going to buy from is dishonest, you don't know there's no way of knowing unless we speak out about the auctioneers who are happy to rip people off.

Don't let this school yard bully get his own way, we must stand up and reply, shame them, tell people what they have done to others, make buyers aware of these dirty grubs who steal from hard working citizens.

See we are caught when the dishonest auctioneer hold you to ransom by encouraging you to use there in-house shipping service which some auctions will offer for just that reason, not to send the package, YES they say its cheaper we are better and faster and all the other bullshit that goes along with fooling you to use the auctioneers in-house shipping.

But if you use an outside shipper from the same town which is not hard to do, all you do is google shipper and the towns name to see who may be the closest to that auction, contact that shipper and ask them, if sending them your money to pay the auctioneers is OK.

I'm also very interested to hear from people who have fallen victim to this Company
DYNASTY ART AUCTIONEERS OR PRIME AUCTIONEERS CANADA
or other dishonest auctioneers you the internet user have come across via the internet.

REPORTING ON ANTIQUE AUCTIONS IN MELBOURNE 2017
I WILL HIGHLIGHT SORT AFTER ANTIQUES SOLD IN THE AUCTIONS IN 2017.

LEONARD JOEL AUCTIONEERS
MOSSGREEN AUCTIONEERS
AINGER'S AUCTIONEERS
CHRISTIAN MC CANN'S AUCTIONEERS
PHILLIP CALDWELLS AUCTIONEERS

Leonard Joel Auctioneers held a most successful auction in Sydney 31st August 2017 holding two auctions returning the Estate $1.74 Million.
Some highlights of that auction selling the collection of JAMES FAIRFAX AC, Lot 6 a set of four Victorian novelty kangaroo salts by John Samuel Hunt for Hunt & amp Roskell London 1856.

This Lot was estimated at $7,000-10,000 AUD selling for $70,000 which I'm sure the estate would of been pleased... with the result by Leonard Joel Auctioneers

Another super result was in the Asian section of the sale Lot 202 an impressive Chinese imperial yellow dragon robe c1820s estimate at $40,000-$60,000 selling for $75,000

THE LEONARD JOEL AUCTION GROUP HAVE ACHIEVED SOME OUTSTANDING RESULTS FOR SINGLE OWNER'S IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.

MT GAMBIER LIBRARY - PENOLA LIBRARY SA

The Antique Roadshow Seminars held an Antique evaluation session at Mt Gambier Library and Penola Library Tuesday 17th May 2011

Which was a fantastic success for all concerned.

Both Libraries had a combined attendance of 120 Library Patrons on the day of the evaluation session.

The Antiques and Collectibles we evaluated at both venues were very interesting, ranging from Sterling Silver to Paintings, Porcelain, Pottery.

The most interesting item on the night was an American Flag which had a significant association with world war two, and for the owner well worth researching.

We also had the pleasure to see a very early pair of Australian earrings made from Australian Colonial gold decorated with seed peals and black enamel, housed in there original box - Date 1860s.

I would like to thank Management and Staff members from Penola and Mt Gambier Libraries, the staffs planning and attention to detail for this Antique evaluation session, was outstanding to say the least.



The items we normally uncover are items like this large Sally Herman oil painting to interesting photos like the group of natives above.

My Antique Roadshow evaluation events that I hold are not compromised in any way by me trying to buy from these Library Patrons who are wanting to receive an honest market appraisal, they all receive a true market value for auction.

So we are all on the same page relating to evaluating Antiques there are 3 values that are relevant, they are Insurance - Retail - Wholesale which is an Auction price.

Most people make the mistake of valuing their item closer to retail than wholesale ? I have known people that have valued their item which equals the same value as their written Insurance evaluation, which is a totally incorrect value comparing to the market value, which is what the market is paying right now.

SYDNEY REPRESENTATIVE OF MOSSGREEN - CASTLE HARRIS

The age news paper has had a number of stories of late about some questionable dealings from a few Melbourne based Art Dealers 2010-2011 which in my World the Art/Antique trade is not uncommon, this practice has been going on for years, faking & signing paintings, as we call it in the trade duding up paintings.

Most of those traders are known to the Melbourne Antique trade and some are even liked, but now we have another Antique trader in the market place and this sort of trader has been here for many many years, they are Antique Dealers that represent Antique Auction Houses.

One dealer in particular representing Mossgreen Auctions of Toorak Rd Sth Yarra, which opened there doors a few years ago as a boutique Art/Antique Auction House selling private Collections for clients living in Melbourne, selling in opposition to Leonard Joel, Sotheby's, Deutscher and Hackett, and Menzies Art Auctioneer's.

This interesting concept which Mossgreen Auctions have adopted, is the experts promoted on Mossgreen's website or via there printed Catalogue while having a specialist auction, are business people in their own right ''Antique Dealers'' who specialise in a particular area of the Antiques trade and what is wrong with that you may say ? and yes, I would say the same thing.

But over the short time Mossgreen Auction's have been conducting on site house auctions and antique auctions in there rooms in Melbourne and Sydney, there has been a few things that have come to light in the last few months, that is at least one of there ''Representatives''

An expert in Australian pottery and Australian Furniture, who is also a representative of Mossgreen Auctions.

In my opinion, this can be a problem when wearing two hats, as you will discover.

When a Mossgreen representative like Graeme Dodd who is an expert in his field of Australian pottery and Australian furniture, who is promoted on Mossgreens Website and in there Catalogue as a leading expert in his field, and a Representative of Mossgreen either part time or on a full time bases.

Now, when giving evaluations he is bound by Law to give all clients who walks through his front door of business a true Auction appraisal, that is if this representative for Mossgreen Auctions is ''honest and transparent'' in his dealings with clients wanting to put Antiques in to Mossgreen up-coming Auctions.

Any representative of any Auction House trying to buy from a client before their item is offered to the market via the auction system, is a conflict of interest.

I also believe this underhanded practice can be answerable in a Court of Law.

Any member of the public wanting a true market appraisal of their Art/Antiques from any Auction Company or representative should be able to receive a honest and correct value of what the market will pay.

Which is not the case here, what has happened in this case, is highly questionable and a conflict of interest in any one's language.

There is a standard business practice which is adopted by most Antique Auctions in Melbourne or their Representatives such as Leonard Joel, Sothebys, Deutscher and Hackett Art Auctions.

Where Auctioneers giving appraisals to clients either at their Auction rooms or in the clients house have a standard code of ethics, which is the representatives of those Auction Companies do not try to buy items of considerable value from clients out right.

This is one of two true stories which need to be told so other unsuspecting clients don't become victims of rip off practise's.

A client walks in to a representative of Mossgreens in Sydney a Mr Graeme Dodd for an Auction evaluation ? for a Castle Harris 3 Koala figured statue, the representative values the item around $7000 and strongly suggests to the client, that's all they will achieve at Auction, less Mossgreens selling commission.

Mr Graeme Dodd assessed the Castle Harris figured group at $7000 and not a penny more ? and strangely enough the representative Graeme Dodd who values this Koala group as not worth a penny more than $7000 at auction, wants to buy the item ?

The client sells to the representative of Mossgreen ''Graeme Dodd'' who has a hidden agenda, which is to sell the item through Mossgreen Auctions him self via the Randwick Auction in 2010.

And that's what happened on the 30.8.10 Mossgreen Randwick Auction in Sydney.

Graeme Dodd of Graeme Dodd Antiques situated in the Rocks Sydney was to buy from the client, a Castle Harris Koala Figure, for $7000.

Which if this happened in any other Auction House would be instant dismissal, he resold the Castle Harris Koala figure in Mossgreens Sydney Auction for $25,095 including commission.

This is not the first time this sort of practise has happened relating to this representative of Mossgreen Auctions Graeme Dodd, not to long ago Graeme Dodd took on consignment a Deerbon Koala jug consigned by the vendor for a Mossgreen Auction or that's what the vendor thought that's what was going to happen ? with an offer from Graeme Dodd to purchase from the client before Auction for a few thousand dollars but was not accepted by the vendor, the vendor wanted the Deerbon jug to go to Auction.

So in Graeme Dodd's wisdom he offers the Deerbon jug to a collector in Sydney, this is what we call in the trade a 'private treaty sale' before Auction, with out consulting the vendor, for a whopping price tag of $17000, which I may ad $12,000 over the reserve price.

This practise offering an item before it goes to Auction for a set price with out consulting the vendor is extremely uncommon.

I also may ad, offering the item a Deerbon Koala jug too a private collector before Auction is unusual, but too be offered for $12000 above the reserve price with out consulting the vendor is not only unusual but highly questionable.

Antique Auction Houses like Leonard Joel, Sotheby's, Deutscher and Hackett have a code of conduct where this business practice normally does not happen, without consulting the vendor.

But this practice is not uncommon when offering an item at a reduced price after the item has been offered at public Auction, and not sold via normal conditions of Auction, referred to as ''testing the market'' in fact this practice is very common for Antique Auctions to sell items after Auction for a lesser price than the set reserve price, given the item has not reached its reserve price.

But the Auction Company will always contact the vendor to receive instructions so they may sell the item for less than the reserve price.

The interesting thing here is we are all left wondering if Mr Graeme Dodd had achieved a private treaty sale, which he did not.

What would the vendor be payed out ? would it be $17000 less commission, or the $5000which was the reserve, I wonder ?

If this scenario was to have happened in any other Auction House, at the very least heads would roll and I would suggest grounds for suing the representative.

Honest Art/Antique Auctions have policies they strictly adhere to, the standard practice of most Auction Companies relating to selling before auction, normally only occurs after testing the market via public auction.

You should be highly suspicious with this practice of a ''Valuer'' or ''Auction representative'' from any Auction Company who is wanting to buy any item from you which you have taken to be valued.

Mr Graeme Dodd is an expert in this area of Australian pottery and Australian Furniture.

Alarm bells should ring loud and clear when a ''valuer'' evaluates your item and wants to buy that same item from you.

I would be very very careful, always get a second or third opinion.

And for those who give Graeme Dodd the benefit of doubt, that does not wash with me, if you look at all the important Castle Harris pottery items sold over the last 5 years all have sold for more than $20,000 and some for $30,000

COLAC TO BENDIGO 2011-PENLEIGH BOYD 1890-1923 ATHENAEUM HALL 1922

I would like to thank Library managers and staff who made their Libraries available for Lester's Antique Roadshow, evaluating Antiques and Collectibles for Library patrons.

From Colac through to Bendigo, there were some impressive Library venues for local Library patrons to have their Antiques and Collectibles evaluated.

Lester's traveling Antique Roadshow evaluation tour started on the 18th February in Colac and finishing at Bendigo on the 23rd February 2011, and it was to say the least, a super success.

Attendance at Colac and Warrnambool Libraries by Library patrons was impressive.

The same can be said with Portland and Horsham Libraries, Lester also evaluated Antiques at Warracknabeal - St Arnaud - Maryborough and Bendigo Libraries.

The Library patrons turned up some very interesting Antiques and Art which was valued by Lester Devere, like this unsigned Penleigh Boyd most likely exhibited on the 14th-25th August 1922 Athenaeum Hall, Collins St Melbourne - Number 6 in the 1922 Exhibition Catalogue Sirius Cove 40 Guineas.

There were many interesting Antiques and Collectibles that people wanted evaluations on, like tin toys, paintings, china, sterling silver, Jewellery and many other items.

AUSTRALIAN ART - SIGNED OR UNSIGNED ?

I have been informed over the years by different art dealers that it's only Australian art collectors and dealers that have concerns, when they are considering to bid on an unsigned art work in auction, attributed by the auction company to a noted artist.

Apposed to buying a signed work by that same artist,

overseas collectors and dealers think completely differently when it comes too buying unsigned art work.

International collectors and dealers are not concerned at all when buying unsigned art by noted artists.

My point is overseas collectors or dealers will back their knowledge and professional judgement when buying an unsigned painting by noted artists ?

So my question is this, is an unsigned painting by a noted artist not worth the same money as a signed painting, painted by the same artist ?

I would beg to differ, and my opinion is this, that an unsigned painting is no different to a signed painting, painted by the same artist.

As long as it's a finished painting opposed to an unfinished painting and the only fault you may find with the painting as a personal point of view is it's not signed.

Example; what is your point of view with this scenario, a ''Picasso'' is offered for auction and this particular painting is not signed ? but looks like a ''Picasso.''

And mark my words there are plenty around the world authentic ''Picasso's'' and many FAKE ''Picasso's'' but can you tell the difference, is the question, I'm just using ''Picasso'' as an example.

There has been many good artist's over the years that have not signed their paintings for one reason or another.

And the auction house in this case, does not have the expertise to say it is ''Picasso'' or not a ''Picasso'' ?

But the auction company will be offering the painting for sale regardless, who do you think determines the value of that unsigned work ''Picasso'' well as in the past and will do in the future, the expert collectors and art dealers who have a knowledge when buying and selling and collecting works painted by ''Picasso'' who are experts in their given field are the people who determine whether the painting is right or wrong, REAL OR FAKE.

The value of a signed painting compared to unsigned painting depends on a few things, which is the quality of the work, the subject or location of that work, the size of the work is also a factor in evaluating the unsigned work, when comparing the two painting, signed and unsigned.

Another factor relating to the value of an unsigned painting is if the Auction Company or art dealer who has it up for sale, attributes the unsigned work to the correct artist ?

This post is for you the viewer too make some judgements about some of the paintings that I have uploaded, and lets see how you go with attributing the correct artist to the correct painting.

Lets pretend all the paintings I have uploaded are unsigned, and your task is to name the Artists ?

Do you think you can, the four paintings I will upload will not show any signatures, so you will need to have some idea who the artist is in the first place, to have any chance of putting a name to the paintings.

leave your comments or your guess to whom you think these paintings are painted by down the bottom of the post and I will reply, you can be anonymous.

Go on have a go, test yourself

Kind regards Lester

KNOX CITY LIBRARY - VIDEO

This video will give you the viewer, some idea how I conduct the Antique Roadshow Seminar for Libraries Inner Melbourne and Country Victoria.

My Antique evaluation talk is a two hour evaluation session for Library patrons, my experience spans 30 years in the Antique trade.

The evaluation talk has no hidden agenda's, what I mean by that statement is I do not try to buy items from Library patrons.

I am payed a flat fee by the Library to talk about the Antique trade in general, telling Library patrons how to research their Antique's or Collectibles, and some interesting insider stories.

I show the library patrons the best way to sell their particular Antiques, the reason I explain to the Library patron, how and where to sell there Antique bedroom chair opposed to giving details how and where to sell their sterling silver America's Cup is because the two Antique items are completely different Antiques.

You will need to consider Auction Companies are not all the same, some can auction furniture better than they can sell sterling silver and others can auction paintings better than they can sell china.

There are many different ways of selling Antiques ? like a Antique Auction, Garage sale, the News paper or the Trading post, selling out right to an Antique dealer.

Some Antique items sell better sending them over seas, some items sell better in a Collectible Auction, some items sell better in a weekly Auction.

Example; Its possible that you would not sell your Picasso painting at the same Auction Company, as you sell your bedroom chair ? and its likely you would not sell your sterling silver America's Cup in the same Auction Company as your 3 piece lounge suite ?

My point is there are many different ways of selling, depending on what the Antique item is that your trying to sell ?

We also touch on how to research Antiques and Collectibles, there are many ways to research your particular Antique.

I can evaluate most Antique items the Library patron bring to the evaluation session, in most cases I can tell the patron about the age and the value, the best way to sell, that's if your wanting to sell your item in the future.

I also explain a process how you can research your Antique item, so you do not get caught selling cheaply, to dishonest people in the Antique trade, who are happy to rip you off.

Who will, and are happy to tell you anything, so they can buy your item as cheaply as possible.

Be very careful of any valuer or dealer even a representative of any Antique Auction Company who will say, this item you have is worth $2000 dollars and in the same breath wants to buy it, at the value he or she has just placed on it ?

A REAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST FOR ANY VALUER TOO VALUE ANY ANTIQUE AND THEN WANTING TO BUY THAT ITEM, ON HIS OR HER OWN EVALUATION.

ALARM BELLS SHOULD BE RINGING BY THIS TIME IF ANY VALUER OR REPRESENTATIVE TRY'S TO BUY FROM YOU BEFORE GOING TO AUCTION.

Lester Devere - Email me at AntiqueRoadshow@hotmail.com